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>> Part.1 In this first part of the interview we asked Peter Lyngdorf which brands he was involved with during his career? ²Ä¤@¬q³X°Ý½Ð±Ð Peter¡A¾²P¹Lµ{©Ò´¿¸g°Ñ»PªºµÅT«~µP ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: That¡¦s quiet a few. Let¡¦s try to take them from an end. Snell Acoustics in the USA. I bought Snell Acoustics in 1990. One of the reasons was, that they were working on the worlds first room correction technology, digital room correction technology. So I got interested and bought the company. Actually that was where we started doing room correction. We came out with the first system in 1993, so that¡¦s 25 years ago. It was fully digital, had a frequency resolution of 0.6Hz, so it was actually fully functional. There was one earlier system, but that didn¡¦t work in the bass. We were the first company who could really do a full range, digital room compensation. Of course we didn¡¦t know what to do with it at that time, but it was the first system. That was Snell Acoustics. ¡@ Peter : ¬O¦³°Ñ»P¤@¨Ç«~µP( Peter ¤@¶}©l¦³¨ÇÁ¾µê ... : )¡A´N±q¬ü°ê«~µP Snell Acoustics »¡°_¡C1990¦~§Ú¶R¤F³o®a¤½¥q¡A²z¥Ñ¤§¤@¥¿¬O¦]¬° Snell ¥¿µÛ¤â¬ãµo¥@¬Éº³ÐªºªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿§Þ³N¡A¦Ó¥B¬O"¼Æ¦ìªº"ªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿§Þ³N¡C¦]¬°¹ï¦¹»á·P¿³½ì¡A©Ò¥H§Ú´N¶R¤U³o®a¤½¥q( ®@¡APeter ¯u»¨®ð! )¡C¨Æ¹ê¤W¡A³o¬O§Ú̹ïªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿¬ãµoªº°_©l¡C²Ä¤@®M¨t²Î©ó 1993¦~±À¥X¡A¨º¬O 25¦~«e¤F¡C¥¦¬O¥þ¼Æ¦ì¡AÀW²v¸ÑªR«×¹F¨ì 0.6Hz¡A¯uªº¥i¥H¹B§@¡C ....... §Ú̬O¥@¬É²Ä¤@®a¡B±o¥H¥þµ°ì°µ¼Æ¦ì³B²z¡BªÅ¶¡¸ÉÀvªº¤½¥q¡C¥u¤£¹L¦b·í®É¡A©|¥¼¦³¦X¾Aªº°ÓÂà·§©À¡A¦ý¥¦¯uªº¬O¥@¬É²Ä¤@®M¨t²Î¡A¨º¬O Snell Acoustics¡C ¡@
¡@ ¡@ In that period of time I was also the owner of NAD Electronics, which I sold again in the late nineties. I¡¦ve been distributor for NAD since 1975, so I was one of the first people to work with NAD. I was there when they made the NAD 3020 and so on¡K It was a fantastic journey. In the late nineties I decided that I would rather spend more time on digital technology development, instead of running a big audio brand. I love the brand. It¡¦s still a fantastic brand. Now they have BlueSound. We have a very close relationship with NAD. I have the exclusive distributor rights for Scandinavia, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg. Super friends with NAD, so I¡¦m still close to the company. ¡@ ¨º®É¡A§Ú¦P®É¤]¬O NAD ªº¦ÑÁó¡Aª½¨ì 90¦~¥N¥½´Á±N¥¦½æ±¼¬°¤î¡C¦±q 1975¦~§Ú´N¶}©l¥N²z NAD¡A©Ò¥H§Ú¬O³Ì¦°Ñ»P³oÓ«~µPªº¤H¤§¤@¡A¬Æ¦Ü NAD 3020 ¬ã»s®É§Ú¤]¦b³õ .... ³o¯u¬O¤@³õ©_¤Û®Èµ{¡C90¦~¥N¥½´Á§Ú¨M©w±N¤ß¤O±Mª`©ó¼Æ¦ì§Þ³N¬ãµo¡A¦Ó«DÀç§Q¤@®aµÅT«~µP¤j¤½¥q¡C§Ú·R³oÓ¼tµP¡A¦Ü¤µ¥¦¨ÌµM¬O¤@Ó¦³½ìªº«~µP¡A¦p¤µ¥L̤]¾Ö¦³ Bluesound ³o®a¤½¥q( Bluesound¡BNAD¡BPSB ¦PÄÝ¥_¬ü Lenbrook ¶°¹Î )¡C§Ṳ́@ª½»P NAD «O«ùºò±K¦X§@ªºÃö«Y¡A©ó´µ³ô¦a¨ººû¨È¦a°Ï¡B¼w°ê¡B²ü¤ñ¿cµ¥°ê®a¡A§Ú¦³ NAD ªº¿W®a¥N²zÅv¡C¥L̬O¶W³Â¦NªºªB¤Í¡A©Ò¥H§Ú¨ÌµM»P³o®a¤½¥qÃö«Y±K¤Á¡C ¡@
¡@ ¡@ I started TacT Audio in 1996, with a partner in the United States. We were working on room correction technology. That company made the TacT Millennium amplifier, which was the first true digital amplifier. That amplifier design is now 21 years old and it¡¦s still probably the best fully digital amplifier. It was the first and it¡¦s still performing superbly. ¡@ ¶}©l TacT Audio ³o®a¤½¥q¬O¦b 1996¦~¡B»P¤@¦ì¹Ù¦ñ©ó¬ü°ê¶}©l¡C§ÚÌ·í®ÉP¤O©óªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿§Þ³N¡C³o®a¤½¥q±À¥X¤F TacT Millennium ÂX¤j¾÷¡A¥¦¬O¥@¬Éº³¡¯u¹ê¥þ¼Æ¦ìÂX¤j¾÷¡CMillennium ¦Ü¤µ¤w 21¦~¤F¡A¦Ó¥B¥¦©Î³\ÁÙ¬O³Ì¦nªº¥þ¼Æ¦ìÂX¤j¾÷¡C¥¦¬O³Ì¦ªº¥B¨ÌµM©Ê¯à¨ô¶V¡C ¡@ ¡@
¡@ ¡@ Dali, a speaker company, is an old company now. I started that in 1981-1982. It¡¦s still my company. The CEO, Lars Worre, is also a big shareholder now. He¡¦s running the day to day operation. Dali is more successful now then it has ever been. It¡¦s becoming a little bit more successful every year. They have developed some new technologies. That keeps me excited, young. ¡@ Dali ´Án¾¹¤½¥q¡A¦p¤µ¤w¬O¦³¸ê¾úªº¤½¥q¤F¡C§Ú©ó 1981~82¦~®É³Ð¥ß Dali¡A¦Ü¤µÁÙ¬O§Úªº¤½¥q¡FDali ¤½¥q CEO Lars Worre¡A²{¦b¤]¬O¤½¥qªº¤jªÑªF¡A¤½¥qªºÀç¹B¥Ñ¥L¥þÅvt³d¡CDali ¦p¤µ¤]¤ñ¥H©¹·U¥[¦¨¥\¡A¤@¦~¤ñ¤@¦~¶i¨B¡A¥L̤w¸g¬ãµo¤F¤@¨Ç·s§Þ³N¡A³oÅý§Úı±o¿³¾Ä¡B§ó¥[¦~»´¡C(¬Ý¨Ó°²¥H®É¤é¡A©Î³\«Ü§Ö¦a¡ADali ´N±N¶W¶V"¦P°ê"ªº Dynaudio ¤F... «¢«¢ : ) ¡@
¡@ ¡@ Then SL Audio, where we have the collaboration with Steinway and Sons. It was started 12 years ago. That was after I split up with my partner in TacT Audio, because he had totally different ideas then I had. Within SL Audio we have developed the RoomPerfect technology. We will get back to that later in the interview, because it¡¦s core to a lot of which we are doing. ¡@ µM«á¬O Steinway Lyngdorf¡A³o¬O§ÚÌ»P Steinway & Sons ªºÁp¦W«~µP¡A©l©ó 12¦~«e(2006¦~)¡C·í®É§Ú¥¿¦n»P TacT Audio ©î¹Ù¤F¡Aì¦]²z©À¤£¦X¡C¦b Steinway Lyngdorf ´Á¶¡¡A§Ú̬ãµo¤F RoomPerfect §Þ³N¡A«Ý·|§ÚÌ·|¦A¦^ÀY°Q½×¥¦¡A¦]¬° RoomPerfect ¬O§ÚÌ¥¿¦b¶i¦æªº³\¦h¨Æ¤§®Ö¤ß¡C ¡@ ¡@
¡@ I owned Gryphon Audio also for a few years. That was a little bit by accident. Flemming Rasmussen was a good friend, is a good friend. About 20 years ago he got into a financial squeeze. He asked me if I wanted to buy the company. I said to him that I would buy the company, but you have to buy it back when it¡¦s back on track. So I owned it for like 3 years or so. Flemming is still a great friend, but we are completely separated again. ¡@ I¡¦ve been involved in quiet a lot of other companies. I¡¦m part owner of a microphone company now, part owner of Soundbox: a company that makes powered speakers for parties. I have a lot of smaller investments and try to advise people. I also still own HifiKlubben; the sales organisation for Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Holland and Germany now. So¡Kit¡¦s to many companies. I probably forget one or two of them¡KI¡¦m sorry. ¡@ §Ú¤]¨Æ¹ê¤W¤w¸g°Ñ»P¤F¬Û·í¦hªº¤½¥q( Peter ¶}©l¶VÁ¿¶V¦h¤F ... : )¡F§Ú²{¦b³¡¤À¾Ö¦³¤@®a³Á§J·¤½¥q¡B³¡¤À¾Ö¦³ Soundbox¡A¤@®a»s§@"¶}w±M¥Î"¥D°Ê¦¡³â¥zªº¤½¥q¡CÁÙ¦³³\³\¦h¦h¤p§ë¸ê¡B¥H¤ÎÅU°Ý©Ê½èªº¡C§Ú¤]¨ÌµM¾Ö¦³ HiFi Klubben¡A¤@®a¹M¤Î¤¦³Á¡B®¿«Â¡B·ç¨å¡B²üÄõ¥H¤Î¼w°êªº¾P°â³q¸ô¡C©Ò¥H ... ¹ê¦b¤Ó¦h¤½¥q¤F¡A§Ú·d¤£¦n§Ñ¤F(´£¤Î)¨ä¤¤¬Y¤@¡B¨â®a ... ¤ï¶Õ°Õ¡C |
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>> Part.2 In this second part we asked Peter Lyngdorf which place music takes in his life. ²Ä¤G¬q³X°Ý½Ð±Ð Peter¡Aµ¼Ö¦b¥L¥Í¬¡¡B¥Í©R¤¤©~¦ó¦a¦ì ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: Well, for me music is the most emotional art form. I mean, you can buy an expensive painting, but it¡¦s just the same all the time. It¡¦s there and it maybe valuable, but get some good sound¡Kget some good music! You get endless variety and it¡¦s much more emotional. Unfortunately a lot of people don¡¦t think about music as something that¡¦s extremely important. But if you ask people -and me certainly-, what is more important for you: music or movies? I say music ¡K much more important. I can live without movies. I cannot live without music. I think most people, if you ask them ¡K what would they rather live without: music or movies? Most people would say; I keep the music! ¡@ Peter : ¶â¡A¹ï§Ú¦Ó¨¥¡Aµ¼Ö¬O³Ì¥O¤H·P°ÊªºÃÀ³N§Î¦¡¡C§Úªº·N«ä¬O¡A§A¥i¥H¶R¤@´T©ù¶Qªºµe§@¡A©Î³\¥¦«Ü¦³»ùÈ¡A¦ý¥¦¤@ª½´N¬O¨º¼Ë¤£·|ÅܤơF¹ï¤ñ©ó¦³¦nÁnµ( n¦³¦nµÅT ... : ) ... ¦³¦nªºµ¼Ö¡A§A¾Ö¦³µL½aªº¤º®eÅܤơA¦Ó¥B¦³§ó¦hªº·P°Êµo±¸¡C¦ý¤£©¯¦a¬O¡A¦³«Ü¦h¤HµLªk²z¸Ñµ¼Ö¬O¦óµ¥ªº«n ...... ..... ¡@ * ½sªÌµù : µªÂгoÓ´£°Ý®É¡APeter ½Í¤Î¥LªºÃÀ³NÆ[¡A¥Ñµe§@ªY½àªº¤ñ¸ûÂI½T¹ê»P²³¤£¦P¡F¹ï©óµ¼Öªº³ß¦n¡A±z¥i°Ñ¾\ Peter ¥t¤@½g±M³X¦p¤U³sµ²¡CÁöµM³o¬O¤K¦~«eªº³X°Ý³ø¾É¡A¦ý Peter ´£¨ì¤F¦¦~Å¥µ¼Ö®É¡A¦]¤£º¡¨äµÅTªº¯}Án¡A¦Ó°Ê¤âקïµÅTµ½cªº©¹¨Æ·½¥Ñ¡A¨º®É¬O 1964¦~¡B¤¤Q¦h¦~«eªº©¹¨Æ¡A¥¿¬O¶Ç©_¬G¨Æªº¶}©l .... .... |
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>> Part.3 In part 3 of the interview Peter Lyngdorf explains why -at some point- he felt the need to develop RoomPerfect. ²Ä¤T¬q³X°Ý¡APeter »¡©ú¤F¡A¬°¦ó¥Lı±o¥²¶·n¬ãµo RoomPerfect ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf : Yes. RoomPerfect is the result of many¡Kmany years of thinking into compensation for your room acoustics. Why was I interested in that? I have a lot of retail shops. I¡¦ve been designing and selling loudspeakers, amplifiers and all of that with my engineers for many¡Kmany years. Whenever I went out to see customers, which I¡¦d like to do a lot, I was always kind of shocked to hear that our Dali speaker sounded completely different. And not quiet the way it was supposed to sound, when I come home to people. The people were quiet happy, but I knew it could be better. ¡@ Peter : ¬Oªº¡ARoomPerfect ¬O¾ú¸g¦h¦~ ... «D±`¦h¦~W«ä¡B¦p¦ó¸ÉÀvªÅ¶¡Án¾Çªº¦¨ªG¡C¦ó¥H§Ú·|¦p¦¹ªº·P¿³½ì? ¦n¡A§Ú¦³³\¦hªºµÅT¹s°â©±¡A¦h¦~¨Ó§Ú»P§Úªº¤uµ{®v̤@°_³]p¨Ã¾P°â³â¥z¡BÂX¤j¾÷¡B¥H¤Î©Ò¦³©PÃä¬ÛÃö¡C¦ý¨C·í§Ú¥~¥X±´³X«È¤H ... §Ú³ßÅw³o¼Ë°µ¡A§ÚÁ`¬O·|Åå³Y¦aµo²{§Ú̪º Dali ³â¥z«ç»òÅ¥°_¨ÓÁnµ§¹¥þ¤£¦P¡A¦Ó¥B¬O§¹¥þ¨Ã«Dì¨Ó©Ò´Á«ÝªºÁnµªí²{¡CÁöµM¥Î®ą̵M«Üº¡·N¡A¦ý§Úª¾¹D³o¨Ç³â¥z¥i¥H°Ûªº§ó¦n ! ( ¦U¦ì Dali ³â¥zªº¥Î®aª`·N¤F ... ½Ð©¹¤U¬Ý : ) ¡@ So I always wanted to make something available so normal people could get the optimal sound in their own house. One of the things that people don¡¦t realize is, that if they buy the best speaker in the world and put it in their normal living room, that about 85% of the sound they hear is coming from the room. The speaker is 15% of the sound, the room 85%. Typically those 85% are not so good. When you can digitally compensate in the correct way, we can actually make sure that if you buy a Bower & Wilkins speaker or Dali speaker or any good loudspeaker, that speaker will sound at its best in your own room. That is what really matters. In practical terms, most people cannot put the speakers exactly where to would want to have them, because they have a wife and children. They have a real life to live. They cannot put the speakers exactly in the sweet spot. They cannot put the sofa exactly in the sweet spot and move it 2,5M away from the rear wall. It just doesn¡¦t work for people. With good room compensation technology you can make virtually every room work, so that every speaker works the best possible way in a room. You can even have the speaker close to the wall and get a fantastic sound. When we go to different hi-fi shows, people always say that we are lucky with our room. No, we¡¦re not lucky. We designed RoomPerfect to take care of the room. Our room is as shitty as everybody¡¦s else¡¦s room. We have RoomPerfect, we can fix it. That¡¦s the big trick. ¡@ ©Ò¥H§ÚÁ`·Q¬°¤@¯ë·R¼ÖªÌ°µÂI¨Æ¡A¦nÅý¥L̦b¦Û®aÀô¹Ò¸Ì´N¯àÀò±o³Ì¨ÎªºÁnµªí²{¡C¹ï©óÁnµ¡A¨ä¤¤¤j®a©Ò¤£¯à¤F¸Ñªº¤@ÂI´N¬O¡A¦pªG¶R¤F¥@¬É¤W³Ì¦nªº³â¥z¡BÂ\¦b¤@¯ëªº«ÈÆU¸Ì¡A¨ä¹ê 85% ªºÁnµªí²{¬O¨Ó¦Û©óªÅ¶¡ªºµ¦â( ... §A¨SÅ¥¿ù)¡C15% ¨Ó¦Û³â¥z¡A85% ¨Ó¦ÛªÅ¶¡¡F¦Ó¤@¯ë»¡¨Ó¡A³o 85% ¨Ã¤£«ç»ò¦n¡C·í±z¯à°÷¥H¼Æ¦ìªº¤è¦¡¥¿½T¦a¸ÉÀv×¥¿ªÅ¶¡°ÝÃD¡A§Ú̧Y¯à½Tª¾¤£½×±z¶Rªº¬O B&W ©Î¬O Dali¡B¥ç©Î¬O¥ô¦ó¦n³â¥z¡A³o¨Ç³â¥z±N¯à©ó±zªº¦Û®a®i²{¨ä³Ì¨Îµ¦â¡C³o¯uªº¬O¤Ónºò¤F ! ¦b¯u¹êÀô¹Ò¸Ì¡A¤j¦h¼Æ¤HµLªk±N³â¥zÂ\©ñ¦b·Qn¸m©ñªº¦a¤è¡A¦]¬°¤Ó¤Ó©Î¤p«Ä ... ( Sorry ¤F¡A¦U¦ì¦Ñ±C¤j¤H¡A¦ý²{¦b¦³¸Ñ¤F ... : ) ³o¬O¯u¹ê¥@¬ÉªºW´e¡A§Ú̱`±`µLªk±N³â¥zÂ\©ñ©óÁnµ³Ì¨ÎªºªÅ¶¡¦ì¸m¡C¥ç©Î¬O§Ú̵Lªk±N¨FµoÂ\©ñ©ó³Ì¨Î¦ì¸m¡B©Î±N¤§²¾Â÷IÀð 2.5¤½¤Ø ... ¦³®É´N¬O¤£¦æ¡C¦ý¬O¦³¤F¦nªºªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿§Þ³N¡A§A´X¥G¥i¥HÅý¨CӪŶ¡ ³õ°ì³£¥X¦nÁn¡A¦p¦¹¨Ï±o¨C¤@¹ï³â¥z³£¯à©ó©Ò¦bÀô¹Ò¸Ì¡B®i²{³Ì¦nªº©Ê¯àªí²{¡C±z¬Æ¦Ü¥i¥HÅý³â¥z¾aÀðÂ\©ñ( «z¡A³o¯uªº¬O«Ü¦h¤H®a¸Ì¤£±o¤£ªºª¬ªp ... )¡A¦ý¨ÌµMÀò±o«Ü¦nªºÁnµ¡C¨C¦¸·í§ÚÌ°Ñ¥[¦U¦aªºµÅT®i¡A¤HÌÁ`¬O»¡§Ú̯u©¯¹B¿ï¨ì¦n(Ánµ)©Ð¶¡¡C¤£¡Aµ´«D¦p¦¹¡A§Ų́S¤°»ò©¯¹B¡C§Ú̥ΠRoomPerfect ¨Ó³B¸m§Ú̪º®i©Ð¡A¦p¦¹¦Ó¤w¡C§Ú̪º®i©Ð¸ò¤j®aªº©Ð¶¡¤@¼Ë"¨â¥ú"¡A¥u¬O§Ú̦³ RoomPerfect¡A¦]¦¹±o¥H³B²z©Ð¶¡ªºÁn¾Ç»Ùê¡A³o´N¬O³Ì¤jªº"¬Ü¨¤"¡C ¡@ ¡@
¡@ RoomPerfect was actually the fourth iteration of room compensation technology. It was a total departure from everything we have done before. In the beginning we made one measurement. We looked at the response and the system would compensate for that measurement: the frequency response that you would see. Then we realized, that what you see in a single frequency response from a microphone is totally different from what you¡¦re hearing when you sit in the room, because the sound comes at different times. It¡¦s not a minimum phase, it¡¦s 85% out of phase. A measurement that you look at is totally meaningless. It was only when we understood that what you hear and what you measure from a single microphone position are two completely different things. That¡¦s also why, when you use RoomPerfect as a user, you don¡¦t know what¡¦s happening. The only thing that you¡¦re sure of is that after you do RoomPerfect, the speakers sound like they are supposed to sound. You don¡¦t have to think about all your room problems anymore. ¡@ RoomPerfect ¹ê»Ú¤W¬O¤w¸g¾ú¸g²Ä¥|ª©¶i¤ÆªºªÅ¶¡¸ÉÀv¬ì§Þ¡A¥¦¤w§¹¥þ°j²§©ó§ÚÌ¥H©¹©ÒIJ¤Îªº¡C¤@¶}©l§ÚÌ°µ¶q´ú¡A§ÚÌÀ˵øÅTÀ³µ²ªG¡AµM«á¨t²Î¶i¦æ¸ÉÀv : ¤]´N¬O§A¥iµø±o¤§ÀW²vÅTÀ³¡CµM«á§Ú̱oª¾¡A¸g¥Ñ¶q´ú³Á§J·§A¯à¬Ý¨ìªº³æ¤@ÀW²vÅTÀ³¡B»P§A¯u¥¿§¤¦b©Ð¶¡¸Ì©ÒÅ¥»D¨ìªº¡A¬O§¹¥þ¨â¦^¨Æ¡C³o¬O¦]¬°©Ò¦³ªºÁnµÅTÀ³¨Ã«D¦P®É©è¹F¡A¤£¬O®É¶¡¦P¬Û¡A¨ä¹ê¬O¦³ 85% «D¦P¬Û¡A©Ò¥H¿Ã¹õ¤W¥iµø±o¤§ÅTÀ³¦±½u²@µL·N¸q¡C³o¤]¬O¬°¬Æ»ò¡B·í§A°õ¦æ RoomPerfect ®É¡A§A¤£»Ýnª¾¹D( ©Ò¿×ÀW²vÅTÀ³¦±½u ...¡AÃø©Ç¨S¦³¥²n®i²{©Ò¿× RoomPerfect ªºÀW²vÅTÀ³³B²z¹Ï ... )¡C°ß¤@±z¥i¥H½T«Hªº¬O¡A¤@¥¹°õ¦æ§¹¦¨ RoomPerfect¡A±zªº³â¥z±N¨Ì·Ó¥LÌì¥ý±o¥Hªí²{ªºÁnµ©Ê¯à¥R¤Àµo´§¡A±q¦¹±z¤£¥²¦A§x´o©óªÅ¶¡°ÝÃD¡C ¡@ What happens in between is a hugely complex process. We spend between 8 and 9 million dollars to optimize the technology of RoomPerfect. One of the things we developed is a completely new measurement technology that has never been used before. For instance, we are complete immune to noise in the measurements. Three days ago we set up one of our multichannel processors when they had a cocktail party in the room. Everybody said..now we have to leave the room. No, you can stay. Don¡¦t jell and scream, but keep your party going while we do the measurements. It doesn¡¦t affect the measurements. The technology is really fantastic! ¡@ RoomPerfect ªºªÅ¶¡®Õ¥¿¡A¬O¤@Ó·¥¬°½ÆÂøªº³B²z¹Lµ{¡C§Ú̦@ªá¶O¤F¤j¬ù 8¡B9¨Õ¸U¬üª÷¡A§ë¤J RoomPerfect ªº§Þ³N¬ãµo¡B¶i¦æÀu¤Æ¡CÁ|¤@¨Ò¨Ó»¡¡A§ÚÌ©Ò¶i¦æªº¡A¬O±q¥¼¦³¹Lªº¹ñ·s¶q´ú§Þ³N¡C¨Ò¦p¡A¦b¶q´ú®É¡ARoomPerfect ¥i¥H§¹¥þµLµø©ó¨ä¥L¾¸µ¦s¦b¡C´N¦b¤T¤Ñ«e¡A·í§Ú̶i¦æ¦hÁn¹Dªº¶q´ú³]©w®É¡A©Ð¶¡¤º¥¿¦bÁ|¦æÂû§À°s Party¡C©ó¬O¡A«È¤H̳£»¡ ... ¨º¡A²{¦b§ÚÌÀ³¸ÓnÂ÷¶}©Ð¶¡ §a¡F¤£¡A¦U¦ì¡A½Ð¯d¨B¡C±zµL»Ý¥ß¥¿¯¸¦n¡A·íµM¤]¤£n¨è·N¤jÁn¥sÄÛ¡A¦b§ÚÌ°µ RoomPerfect ¶q´ú®É½ÐÄ~Äò¶i¦æ Party¡C³o§¹¥þ¤£·|¼vÅT¶q´ú¡ARoomPerfect ¬ì§Þ¯uªº¬O¥O¤H³Y²§¡C |
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>> Part.4 In part 4 of the interview Peter Lyngdorf introduces the Lyngdorf FR-1 loudspeaker. ²Ä¥|¬q³X°Ý¡APeter ¤¶²Ð¤F Lyngdorf ªº·s²£«~ FR-1 ³â¥z ... ( ³o¤@¬q¤Ó«n¤F¡APeter Á¿z¤F¾À±¾³â¥z¨t²Îªº¥ý¤ÑÀu²§»P¼ç¯à ... ¤@©wnª¾¹D : ) ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: The Lyngdorf FR-1 is designed to work together with the TDAI-2170. It¡¦s an on wall speaker. It¡¦s designed to work extremely well with a flatscreen TV. People put a sound bar near their flatscreen TV. We already have the TDAI-2170 amplifier which has HDMI input. It works seamless with your television. When turn on you television, the sound comes from from our amplifier, that¡¦s all integrated. ¡@ Peter : FR-1 ì³]p»P TDAI-2170 ¥ßÅéÁnºîÂX°t·f¡A¥¦¬O¤@¾À±¾³â¥z¡A¯à»P¦P¼Ë¾À±¾ªº¥±¹qµø¦X§@µL¶¡¡C(¾¨ºÞ)¦³¨Ç¤H·Q¥Î Soundbar ·f°t¥±¹qµø ... (¦ý¨ä¹ê) §Ú̪ººî¦XÂX¤j¾÷³£¤w¸g°t³Æ¦³ HDMI ¤¶±¡A¯à»P±zªº¹qµøµLÁ_³sµ²¡C·í±z¥´¶}¹qµø¡AÁnµ±N±q§Ú̪ºÂX¤j¾÷(»P³â¥z)µo¥X¡A¤@¤Á¾ã¦X¦b¤@°_¡C ¡@
¡@ With RoomPerfect, we can make an on wall speaker that works a lot better than a freestanding speaker. When it¡¦s on the wall, you don¡¦t get any cancellation of the sound coming from the front of the speaker to the wall and coming back again. You even get more power. From a relatively small speaker we can get quiet a lot of power, great precision in dynamics. It¡¦s perfect for a really good television sound. It¡¦s an alternative for a mid prized home theatre system. It¡¦s only stereo, but super high fidelity. And it has the RoomPerfect technology in the amplifier. It was a tempting product to make. For the price and with our amplifier, it works exceedingly well. It works with other amplifiers as well. It¡¦s already quiet successful. ¡@ ¥[¤W RoomPerfect ªº¨ó§U¡A§ÚÌ¥i¥H¨Ï¾À±¾³â¥zªí²{ªº»·¤ñ¸¨¦a³â¥zÁÙn¦n¡C·í³â¥z¾À±¾µoÁn®É¡A±z¤£·|¦³¥ô¦ó¨Ó¦Û³â¥z«e½t(©¹«á)¸gIÀð¤Ï®g¡B¦A¦¸¦^¨ì«e½t»Pª½±µµªº½¢¦X©è¾P¡C¦Ó¥B¬Æ¦Ü¥i¥HÀò±o§ó¦h¯à¶q¿é¥X¡A§Y«K¬O¤p¾À±¾³â¥z´N¯à¿é¥X¤jµÀ£¡B¦Ó¥B°ÊºA·¥¬°ºë·Ç¡C¤£¶È§¹¬ü·f°t¥±¹qµø¡A¾À±¾³â¥z¤]¬O¹wºâ¦³ªº®a®x¼@°|´À¥N¤è®×¡AÁöµM¥u¦³¥ßÅéÁn¡A¦ý«o¶W¯Å HiFi¡C¦Ó¥BÂX¤j¾÷¦³ RoomPerfect ¥\¯à¡A¦A¦b¨Ï±o¥¦¦¨¬°¤@·¥Ñ¯S¦âªº²£«~¡C¦Ò¶q¥¦ªº»ù®æ¡A·f°t§Ú̦P¼tªºÂX¤j¾÷¡A¥¦ªí²{ªº´Î³z¤F¡C·íµM¥¦¤]¯à»P¨ä¥LÂX¤j¾÷·f°t¡AFR-1 ¬O¦¨¥\ªº²£«~¡C ¡@ * ½sªÌµù : °£¤F"¤u°Ó®É¶¡"ªº²£«~¤¶²Ð¥~( Peter ·íµM¬O«~µPªº¶W¯Å·~°È : )¡A¹ï©ó"¾À±¾³â¥z"ªº¾Ç²z¦Ò¨s¡A¥¿¬O Lyngdorf ¤@³eªº"ªÅ¶¡¥ý©óµÅT"ªº«äºû¦LÃÒ¡F§^¤H°£¤FÃöª`¨ÃÂç²M On-Wall ¾À±¾¤è¦¡"ª½±µµ"¼½©ñªºª«²zÀuÂI¥~¡A´X³B¹ê»Úºt½m( ¾À±¾³â¥z+RoomPerfect+¶W§Cµ»Î±µ )©ÒÀ³ÃÒªºÀu¶Vªí²{¡A³£Åý¦b³õªÌÅåÆA¸U¤À¡C«Ý·|«á¬q Peter ·|´£¤Î¥t¤@·s²£«~ - Steinway Lyngdorf Model.B ªº¬ãµo¡A¨ä¤¤ Steinway Lyngdorf ´Án¾¹©Ò°í«ù¨Ï¥Îªº Dipole( I±¦P®É¤Ï¬ÛµoÁn )³]p¡A¨ä¹ê¥¿»P¾À±¾³â¥zªº"ª½±µµ"½×z¤¬¬Û©IÀ³¡F¦b¦¹§ÚÌ¥ý¥´¦í¡A¸Ô²Ó«Ýµy«á ©ó²Ä¤E¬q³Æµù¦A»¡©ú .... |
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>> Part.5 In this 5th part Peter Lyngdorf introduces the Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 amplifier. ²Ä¤¬q³X°Ý¡APeter ¤¶²Ð¥t¤@ Lyngdorf ªº·s²£«~ TDAI-3400 ¥ßÅéÁnºîÂX ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: The Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 still uses the full digital amplification technology. This means that volume control is done by adjusting the voltage of the power supply, so we have full the dynamic range at any normal playback level. We have the same sound at 0,5 Watts or 400 Watts ¡K which is unusual, impossible to achieve in any other way. In fact it¡¦s all the same technology that we were using in the Millennium amplifier, now with a very sophisticated switch mode power supply. The noise ratio is 137dB! That¡¦s important, because the amp itself is extremely quiet. With a fully digital amplifier, we don¡¦t have a feedback loop to get any noise out of the system. So it¡¦s a very sophisticated power supply. That¡¦s the power section. ¡@ Peter : TDAI-3400 ¨Ï¥Î Lyngdorf ¥þ¼Æ¦ìÂX¤j¾÷§Þ³N¡A³o·N«ü¡A¥¦ªºµ¶q±±¨î¡A¬O¨Ó¦Û©ó¹ï¹q·½¨ÑÀ³¾¹ªº¹qÀ£±±¨î¡A©Ò¥H§Ú̱o¥H¦b¥ô¦óªº ¤j¤pµ¶q¼½©ñ¡B³£«O¦³¥þÃBªº°ÊºA½d³ò¡C( ²¦Ó¨¥¤§ ... )¤£½×¬O 0.5W ©Î 400W ¿é¥X¡A§Ú̳£¦³¬Û¦P¤@Pªºµ¦âªí²{( ¨ä¹ê¡A¥þ¼Æ¦ìÂX¤j¾÷ªº¯u¿Í¡A¯uªº¤£¦b¼Æ¦ì©ñ¤j¬O§_³Ó¹LÃþ¤ñ©ñ¤j¤§ª§¡A¦U¦ì¡AÃöÁä¦b©ó°ÊºA¤£´î·l°Ú ... )... ³o«D±`¦a»P²³¤£¦P¡A¨ä¥L¥ô¦ó( ©ñ¤j )¤è¦¡³£µLªk°µ¨ì¡C¹ê»Ú¤W¡A³o»P·íªì Millennium ÂX¤j¾÷©Ò±Ä¥Îªº§Þ³N¬Û¦P¡F¥u¬O¦p¤µ¡A§Ú̪º¥æ´«¦¡¹q·½¨ÑÀ³¾¹·U¥[ºë¥©Àu²§¡A¥¦ªº°T¾¸¤ñ°ª¹F 137dB ! ³o«D±`«n¡A³o¯à¨Ï±oÂX¤j¾÷¥»¨¾Ö¦³·¥§Cªº©³¾¸¡C¦Ó¥B¹ï©ó¥þ¼Æ¦ìÂX¤j¾÷¡A§Ų́S¦³¬I¥[¥ô¦ót¦^±Â¥Î¥H°§C¨t²Î¾¸µ¡A¦]¤§¡A³o¶VµoÅã±o¹q·½¨ÑÀ³½è¦aÀu¨q¤§¥²n¡C( ... ³á Sorry Peter¡A¤§«e¤@ª½»~»{¬° Lyngdorf ÂX¤j¾÷¤§©Ò¥H³o»ò¦wÀR¡A¬O¦]¬°¥þ¼Æ¦ì¸ô®|ªºÃö«Y ... ì¨Ó¡A¯u¥¿ªºÃöÁä¡A¬O¹q·½¨ÑÀ³¾¹§r !! ) ¡@
¡@ Next is RoomPerfect. We also have a low frequency output for a subwoofer or woofer system. You can do woofer/main speaker integration using RoomPerfect, do a proper time alignment between the woofer and the mid/high speaker. That is one thing that RoomPerfect can do, flawlessly, every time. You can make your sub and mid/high system work together like it¡¦s one speaker. I think we¡¦re the only company in the world who can do it. We nail it every single time. Every other system that tries to combine a subwoofer with main speakers you¡¦ll have to set a very low crossover frequency -which is kind of a waste- or you have to manipulate, go for try and error and end up with something that¡¦s maybe ok. But we can nail it every time. That¡¦s a huge feature. 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For example: HDMI input, high quality USB input, 384kHz DSD input, ¡K We have a new feature, in combination with RoomPerfect. Now, you can make a pre-voicing for your loudspeakers. With RoomPerfect typically we assume that you bought the speakers that you really like. Your room problem will be fixed with RoomPerfect. Imagine that you always thought that you¡¦re speakers had a little bit too much midrange, a little bit too much bass overall. Now, you can adjust that before you do RoomPerfect. ¡@ ©Ò¥H¡ATDAI-3400 ¦³Åå¤Hªº¥\²v¿é¥X(400W)¡A¦ý¾÷Åé²Ï¹ê¤Ø¤o¦X©y¡A¦Ó¥B¥\¯à¶W¦h¡A©Z¥Õ»¡§Ú¤]¤£½T©w¯à¥þ³¡°O±o¡F¨Ò¦p¡AHDMI ¤¶±¡B°ª«~½è USB ¿é¤J¡B¸ÑªR«×°ª¹F 384kHz/32bit(LPCM)¡ADSD Àɪ½¤J .... 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If you have it hooked up in combination with your TV and when you turn on your TV, you can change the volume with the TV remote seamlessly. You don¡¦t have to think about it. When your wife turns on the TV, she¡¦s using your wonderful amplifier at the same time. She doesn¡¦t has to do anything special for that. It has Bluetooth, web interface, it will do Roon streaming,¡K I don¡¦t think that there¡¦s much it can¡¦t do. I probably forgot something. It¡¦s a wonderful product and it has a very powerful DSP section, with a lot of extra capacity. I know that our engineers are brilliant, so they¡¦ll probably come up with a few software updates down the road that you can download or the unit connected to the internet will download it by itself. 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>> Part.6 In this 6th part Peter Lyngdorf explains why enjoying compressed music is a contradiction. ²Ä¤»¬q³X°Ý¡APeter ¸ÑÄÀ¤F¡AÀ£ÁYµ¼Öªº°ÝÃD¡C ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: First of all you have to remember that there are 2 kinds of compression. There¡¦s the data reduction, which is what happening with mp3, that¡¦s data compression. A different thing is dynamic range compression. Data compression is that you less data to describe the signal, as you do with mp3. Mp3 in itself, if you run 128kBi/sec files, can sound kind of ok¡Knot to aggressive or unpleasant. You¡¦re loosing quiet a bit. 192kBit/sec can sound absolutely ok for your car. I would say that it¡¦s fine for your car. It¡¦s not fine for your home system. So, that¡¦s one kind of compression, the data reduction. ¡@ Peter : º¥ý½Ð°O±o¡A¦³¨âºØ¤£¦Pªºµ¼ÖÀ£ÁY¡C²Ä¤@ºØ¬O¸ê®ÆÀ£ÁY¡AMP3 ´N¬O¡F¥t¤@ºØ«h¬O°ÊºA½d³òÀ£ÁY¡C¸ê®ÆÀ£ÁY·N¦®¨Ï¥Î¸û¤Öªº¸ê°T¶q¨Ó´yzµ¼Ö°T¸¹¡A´N¹³ MP3¡F¦ý§Y«K¬O 128KB/sec ªº MP3¡A¦³®ÉÅ¥°_¨ÓÁÙ¥i±µ¨ü ... ¤£¦Ü©ó¤Ó§n©Î¤£µÎªA¡A¥u¬O¸ê°T´î·l½}¤F¡C¦b¨®¤WÅ¥ 192KB/sec ¤]ºâ OK¡A§Ú»{¬°¾A¦X¨®¤WÅ¥¡A¦ý¦b®a¸Ì¥ÎµÅTÅ¥´N¤£«ç¼Ë¤F ... ©Ò¥H¡A³o¬OÀ£ÁYªº¤@ºØ¡A¸ê®ÆÀ£ÁY¡C ¡@ The other compression is the dynamic range compression. Dynamic range compression is that you take a certain dynamic range and you reduce that. What you do by that is¡Kwith every format you have a maximum level. The more you compress the signal, the more you reduce the difference between loud and soft, the louder the average will be. There has been a competition between music labels -the record industry- to have the loudest music, louder than anybody else. The problem with that is, you can only get loudness by having more sound all the time. That¡¦s what most people don¡¦t understand. Compression is not just that you lift up everything to a certain level, but to get more loudness you need to extend in the time domain. For instance if you have low frequency phenomenon, let¡¦s take a kick drum, with a big thump at 40Hz. It¡¦s one big swing at 40Hz, fundamental. If you want to make that 13dB louder, that¡¦s 20 times louder! How can you make it louder because it¡¦s already at 0dB? Technicians want to have it louder. How can they do that? Instead of just one, you take 20 after each other. All of a sudden that kick drum that really should be like -bang- goes like -bwuuuuttt- because you take 20 cycles. It¡¦s no longer a bang, it¡¦s a blow of energy. That¡¦s one of the most damaging effects of dynamic range compression. You shift in the time domain and your rhythm disappears. The funny thing is, you can compress a human voice quiet a bit without it sounding bad. If you do it with drums, percussion, everything starts to sound the same and there¡¦s no kick, no punch, no definition. There¡¦s no depth. And there¡¦s no quiet. Music is also about what¡¦s happening between the notes. If you want to have something that is extremely loud, like pop tracks today, there¡¦s no time for quiet. So it is loud all the time. That is making it -in my opinion- extremely annoying to listen to. ¡@ ¥t¤@ºØ«h¬O°ÊºA½d³òÀ£ÁY¡C°ÊºA½d³òÀ£ÁY·N¦®§A¥u³]©w¸û¤pªº¤@¬q°ÊºA½d³ò¡AµM«á§A°¨ú¥¦¡C«ç»ò°µ ... ¤£½×®æ¦¡(µ¼Ö¤º®e¸Ì)Á`¦³³Ì¤j¹q¥¡A§A¶V¬OÀ£ÁY¥¦¡A§A¶V¬O°§C¤F¤j¡B¤pÁn¤§¶¡ªº¶ZÂ÷®t²§¡A³Ì²×¡A¯à¨Ï¥§¡ÅT«×Åܤj¡C¦b°Û¤ù¤½¥q»P¿ýµ¤u·~¤§¶¡¦s¦b¤@ºØÄvª§¡A¨º´N¬O"¤ñ¤jÁn"¡A¬Ý½Ö(»¡¸Ü)¸ûÅT«G( ¤]´N¬O©Ò¿× Loudness War ÅT«×¤§¾Ô )¡C.... .... .... µLªk¦wÀR¡Aµ¼Ö¨S¦³ªÅ¥Õ¡A¥u·|¤jÁnÅT¡A¦b§Ú¨Ó¬Ý¡A¦³®É«Ü¥O¤H´o«ã¡C ¡@ * ½sªÌµù : "¤ñ¤jÁn"¤§«á¬Ù²¤¤F¤@¤j¬q¡A¤£¬Oµ§ªÌ°½Ãi( Peter ªá¤F¤j½g´T¦b»¡©ú°ÊºAÀ£ÁY»s§@ªº¹ú¯f¡A¬Ý±o¥X¥L½T¹ê¹ï¦¹«Ü´o«ã ... : )¡A¦Ó¬O¯d¥Õ¸õ¹L¤@¤U¡AÅý§Ú̪½±µ¬Ý¬q¼v¤ù¡A´N¯à©ú¥Õ¬Æ»ò¬O°ÊºA½d³òÀ£ÁY¡C¥H¤U¼v¤ù¥X¦Û Dynamic Range Day¡A§Ú̺٤§¬°"°ÊºA¸Ñ©ñ¤é"²Õ´¡A¸Ó²Õ´ªº®Ö¤ß»ùÈ´N¬O¬°¤F¸Ñ©ñ°ÊºAÀ£ÁY¡F¹ï¤F¡A¥LÌÁÙq¦³"¸Ñ©ñ¬ö©À¤é"¡A¤µ¦~¬O 4¤ë27¤é¡A©xºô¬O www.dynamicrangeday.co.uk¡A¦³ FB¡A°O±o¤W¥h«öÆg¤ä«ù¤@¤U¡CPeace for All¡APeace for Music !! ¡@ ¡@ ¡@ ¡@ ¡@
¡@ 150 years ago, the Grand Piano really broke trough and that was with the Steinway Grand Piano. Once people heard the Grand Piano they wanted to hear that instrument above the harpsichord. Before the Grand Piano, the harpsichord was a keyboard instrument. It was Steinway that designed a piano to be loud enough to be heard in combination with a symphonic orchestra. The Grand Piano became extremely popular. After just a few years the harpsichord disappeared completely. Why did the harpsichord disappear? Because with a harpsichord you¡¦re plucking the strings. No matter how hard you hit the keys, you have the same loudness. The harpsichord has less dynamic range. You can listen to harpsichord for maybe 5 or 10 minutes. After half an hour it drives you up the wall. Because of the same loudness you have no dynamic range. The music school in Paris ripped out all their harpsichords, approximately 5 years after Steinway made the Grand Piano. They had a very cold winter. In that winter they burned all the harpsichords to keep warm. They couldn¡¦t stand the sound anymore. Lack of dynamic range. ¡@ 150¦~«e¡Aºt«µµ^¦]¬°¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¥X²{¡A³Q¹ý©³ªºÄAÂФF¡C¥un¤HÌÅ¥¹L¥¥x¿ûµ^¡A¥L̥ߧY©ú¥Õ³o¤ñ°_¤jÁäµ^¦n¤Ó¦h¤F¡C¦b¥¥x¿ûµ^¥X²{¤§«e¡AÁä½L¼Ö¾¹´N¬O¤jÁäµ^¡Cª½¨ì¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^¥X²{¡A°÷¤jÁn(·íµM¤×¨ä¬O°ÊºA¤]·¥¤j ... : )¡B¥B¨¬¥H»P¤@¾ãÓ¥æÅT¼Ö¹Î¬Û§Ü¿Å ...¡A³o¨Ï±o¥¥x¿ûµ^¨³³t´¶¤Î¡C¤£¹Lµuµu¼Æ¦~¡A¤jÁäµ^§Y§¹¥þ®ø¥¢°Î¸ñ¡C¬°¬Æ»ò©O? ¦]¬°¤jÁäµ^¬O¼·©¶¼Ö¾¹¡A¤£½×§A«ç»ò¥Î¤OºV¥´µ^Áä¡AÅT«×³£¤@¼Ë¡Aªp¥B¤jÁäµ^ªº°ÊºA½d³ò¸û¤p¡C§A¯à²âÅ¥©Î³\¤¨ì¤Q¤ÀÄÁªº¤jÁäµ^ºt«µ¡AµM«á¦b¦hÅ¥Ó¥b¤p®É«á¡A§A¯u·|·Q¼²Àð¡C³o¬O¦]¬°ÅT«×³£¬Û¦P¡B¨S¦³°ÊºA( ¯uªº·|²Ö ... : )¡C¤j·§¦b¥v©Z«Â±À¥X¥¥x¿ûµ^ªº¤¦~¤§«á¡A¤Ú¾¤ªº¤@©Òµ¼Ö¾Ç°|ÀH§Y±ó¸m¥LÌ©Ò¦³ªº¤jÁäµ^¡CµM«á·í¦~¥V¤Ñ·¥§N¡A¥LÌ¿N¤F©Ò¦³ªº¤jÁäµ^¥Î¥H¨ú·x¡C¥L̹ê¦bµLªk¦A§Ô¨ü¤jÁäµ^ ¤F¡A²@µL°ÊºA½d³ò ...( Peter ¬O¦bÁ¿¡AÂI¤õ®ãªº¤k«Ä? ... §ÚªºÄ@±æ¬O .. °ÊºA¤£À£ÁY : ) ¡@ Dynamic range is essential for the emotion in music. There is a great tendency on the way now to normalize loudness, so that you put loudness at -16dB for instance and keep it there. If people start to compress the signal it just starts to sound shitty and doesn¡¦t get louder. Loudness normalization is coming to Spotify, Tidal, a lot of the streaming services, a lot of the radio stations around Europe. In the US they have adapted loudness normalization. Gradually there will be no benefit for the record labels in compressing the music. The music industry is by far the most backwards industry in the world. They are pushed into technology developments, but they never lead them. For some reason they are the most conservative, the most disruptive industry I know of. It will take them probably 10 years to realize that there¡¦s no benefit in compressing the music, except that it¡¦s gonna sound worse. Sooner or later they will realize that quality sells. There¡¦s a good reason that Starbucks sells a lot of coffee. That¡¦s because every cup tastes kind of good. When the music industry starts to make music that sound really good again, they are going to sell more. It may take a few years for them to realize it¡¦s all wrong in terms of pop music. There¡¦s a lot of fantastic jazz and classical music. There are also a few good pop recordings. I had the good fortune of working together with Mark Knofler. He¡¦s also very keen on helping developing great dynamic range music and supporting that a great deal. I think there¡¦s a movement coming, that will ensure better quality. Again. ¡@ ¹ï©óµ¼Öªº±¡·Pªí¹F¡A°ÊºA½d³ò¦ÜÃö«n¡CÃö©ó©Ò¿×"ÅT«×ªº±`³W¤Æ"¡A¥Ø«e¦³¤@ÁͶաA¨º¬O¥ý±NÅT«×³]©w¦b -16dB³B¡A§Y«K¦³¤H·Q°½°½À£ÁYµ¼Ö¡A³o¥u·|ÅýÁnµÃøÅ¥¦Ó¤£·|¼W¥[ÅT«×¡CSpotify¡BTidal¡B³\¦hªº½u¤W¦ê¬yªA°È¡B¥H¤Î¼Ú¬w³\¦hªººô¸ô¦¬µ¹q¥x¡A³£¤w¸g¤ä«ùÅT«×±`³W¤Æ¡A¬ü°ê¤]¶}©l±Ä¥Î¡C³vº¥¦a¡A°Û¤ù¤½¥q±N·|©úÁAÀ£ÁYµ¼Ö(¼W¥[ÅT«×)²@µL¦n³B¡Cµ¼Ö²£·~¬O²{¦b¥@¤W³Ì¬°"Ë°hÂP"ªº¤@ºØ¦æ·~§O¡A¥LÌÁ`¦bªý¾×¬ì§Þ¡B±q¥¼¤Þ¾Éµo®i¡C´N§Ú©Òª¾¡A¦]¬°¤@¨Çì¦]¡A¥L̬O³Ì«O¦u¡B³Ì¬°¯}¶Ãªº¤@ºØ²£·~( ¬Ý¨Ó Peter ¯uªº´o«ã ! )¡C¥L̪á¤F¤Q¦~®É¶¡¡AµM«á²×©óª¾¹D°£¤F·|ÅýÁnµÅÜÁV¡AÀ£ÁYµ¼Ö§¹¥þµL¯q¡C«Ü§Ö¦a¥L̲׷|²z¸Ñ¡A¬O«~½è¨M©w¤@¤Á¡C¦³Ó¦n²z¥Ñ»¡©ú¬P¤Ú§J¬°¦ó½æ±o¦n¡A¨º¬O¦]¬°¨C¤@ªM©@°Ø¹Á°_¨Ó³£¤£¿ù¡C·íµ¼Ö·~¬É¶}©l«·s¦AÅýµ¼ÖÅܱo¦nÅ¥¡A¥LÌ´N¯à¦¨¥\¡C©Î³\ÁÙn´X¦~®É¶¡Åý¥L̲z¸Ñ¡A¹ï©ó(»{ª¾)¬y¦æµ¼Öªº©Ò§@©Ò¬°³£¬O¿ùªº¡C¦³³\¦h«D±`¦nªºÀï¤h»P¥j¨åµ¼Ö¡A¤]¦³¤@¨Ç¦nªº¬y¦æµ¼Ö¿ýµ ... §Ú¦³©¯¯à»P Mark Knopfler ¤@°_¦@ÃÑ¡A¹ï©óÀ°¦£¬ã»s¤j°ÊºAµ¼Ö¤º®e¡B¥H¤Î¹ï¦UºØijÃDªº¤ä«ù¡A¥L³£«D±`¼ö¤ß¡C§Ú¬Û«H¨º¤@¨è²×·|¨ÓÁ{¡A©¡®É§ó¦nªº«~½è±N«Àò»{¥i¡C |
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>> Part.7 In this 7th part Peter Lyngdorf talks about what inspired him to create the Steinway Lyngdorf brand. ²Ä¤C¬q³X°Ý¡APeter Á¿z¤FÁp¦W«~µP Steinway Lyngdorf ªº½Ï¥Í½t¥Ñ ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: The collaboration with Steinway came a little bit out of the blue. It was a Lyngdorf Audio customer who called me and said that he was very close with the owners and management of Steinway & Sons. He had a Lyngdorf system at home and he was just so stunned about how we could reproduce the piano. So it sounded real. At that time we¡¦ve finished RoomPerfect. He asked wether I would be interested in meeting with Steinway & Sons. Just as a meeting. Of course I would. It would be wonderful. Steinway & Sons is like¡Kthere¡¦s no brand like that in music. There¡¦s Stradivarius and Steinway & Sons. Stradivarius died about 100 years ago. Yes, absolutely, I¡¦ll see them when we can. ¡@ Peter : »P¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¦X§@µo®i¡A¦³ÂI©l®Æ¥¼¤Î¡B¥X¥G·N¥~¡C¬O¦³¦ì Lyngdorf Audio ªº¥Î®a¥´¹q¸Üµ¹§Ú¡A»¡¥L»P¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¦ÑÁóÌ»PºÞ²z°ª¼h«D±`¼ô¡C¥L»¡¥L®a¸Ì¦³ Lyngdorf µÅT¨t²Î¡A¹ï©ó§ÚÌ(©Ò¯à¼½©ñ¥X)ªº¿ûµ^µ¦â·P¨ìÅå¹Ä¡A¥¦¬O¦p¦¹¯u¹ê¡C¨º®É§ÚÌ觹¦¨ RoomPerfect ªº¬ãµo¡A¥L°Ý§Ú¬O§_¦³¿³½ì»P¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¤H·|±¡A´N¥u¬O¸IÓ±¡C·íµMÄ@·N°Ú§Ú¡A³o¦h´Î°Ú ! ¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^´N¹³¬O ... ¹ïµ¼Ö¦Ó¨¥¡A¤@ÓµL¥i´À¥Nªº¼tµP¡C§Ú̦³¥v¯S©Ô}¥Ë¨½(´£µ^¤§¤ý)¥H¤Î¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^(¿ûµ^¤§¤ý)¡A¦ý¥v¯S©Ô}¥Ë¨½¤w¸g³u¥@¶W¹L¦Ê¦~ .... ... .. ¬Oªº¡Aµ´¹ïn¡A¥i¥Hªº®ÉÔ§Ún»P¥v©Z«Â¥L̸I±¡C ¡@ ¡@
¡@ ¡@ A few months later we went to visit Steinway and we started talking about the possibility of doing a Steinway & Sons audio system. The owner and management were kind of interested in doing something with the Steinway name -not Steinway & Sons- in audio. That way they could kind of expand the brand. They had a plan of making a self playing piano. They would love to have a music system to compliment that. So I said, yeah let¡¦s think about it. I¡¦ll come up with a proposal. ¡@ ´XÓ¤ë«á§Ṳ́@°_¥h«ô³X¥v©Z«Â¡AµM«á§Ú̶}©l°Q½×±À¥X¥v©Z«ÂµÅT¨t²Îªº¥i¯à¡C¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¦ÑÁó»PºÞ²z°ª¼h¡A¹ï©ó±À¥X"±¾¦W"¥v©Z«ÂªºµÅT( ¥u±Ä¥Î³¡¥÷¥þ«~µP Steinway & Sons ¤§¦W¡A§Y Steinway Audio )·P¨ì¦³¨Ç¿³½ì¡C³o¬O¤@ºØÂX±i«~µPªºµ¦²¤«äºû¡A¥L̤]¦³»s§@¥b¦Û°Ê¿ûµ^ªºpµe¡A¥i¥H¦³¤@Óµ¼ÖµÅT¨t²Î¦@Á¸²±Á|¡C©ó¬O§Ú»¡¡A¦n¡AÅý§Ú̦n¦n·Q·Q¡A§Ú·|¦^¨Ó´£®×¡C ¡@ We assembled our best engineers and a few months later we made a proof of concept. We did a demonstration in New York for Steinway & Sons and management and the owners. They were extremely positive about it. We decided to make a handshake agreement to work together and start developing the real thing. Another few months past. We did a mockup of the Model D Steinway system. When I presented it to the management, their reaction was phenomenal! The CEO of Steinway & Sons said: Peter, we want to call this a Steinway & Sons product. This was the first time in 150 years of company history that they allowed to use the name on a product that is not a piano and not made in their factory. That was how much they believed in that system. They were so impressed by the performance. ¡@ ¶×¶°¤F§Ú̳ÌÀu¨qªº¤uµ{®v¡A´XÓ¤ë«á§Ú̱N·§©À¸¨¹ê¥X¨Ó¡C¦b¯Ã¬ù¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº¦ÑÁó¡BºÞ²z°ª¼h¥H¤ÎªÑªF̪º±«e¡A§ÚÌ°µ¤F¤@Óµoªí®i¥Ü¡A¤j®aªº¤ÏÀ³·¥¬°¥¿±¡C©ó¬OÂù¤è¨M©w¥ß¬ù®i¶}¦X§@¡A¶}©l§ë¤J¬ãµo¯u¥¿ªº²£«~¡C¦A¸g´XÓ¤ë«á¡A§ÚÌ»s§@¤F Model.D ªºì«¬¾÷ ... ·í§Ú¦VºÞ²z°ª¼h®i¥Ü¥¦®É¡A¤j®a³£Ä±±o¯u¬OÅåÆv ! ©ó¬O¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^ªº CEO ¹ï§Ú»¡ : Peter¡A§ÚÌ·QnºÙ¥¦¬O Steinway & Sons ªº²£«~¡C³o¬O³o®a¦³µÛ 150¦~¾ú¥vªº¤½¥q¡B¥v¤Wº¦¸ªº¡A¤¹³\¦b«D¿ûµ^¡B«D¥»¼t»s³yªº²£«~¤W¡A¨Ï¥Î¥L̪º«~µP°Ó¼Ð¡C³o»¡©ú¤F¥L̦³¦h»ò«H¥ô³o¨t²Î¡AModel.D ªº©Ê¯à¦p¦ó¥O¥LÌ·P¨ì¦L¶H²`¨è¡C ¡@ After that we had a wonderful collaboration with Steinway. We meet them a few times per year. They still have to approve new products under the Steinway & Sons brandname. Nowadays it¡¦s just a formality. They know that we¡¦re gonna be perfect every time. It¡¦s also a huge obligation to make products with that brandname. Has to be the best! ¡@ ¤§«á§ÚÌ´N»P¥v©Z«Â¿ûµ^¦³µÛ´r§Öªº¦X§@Ãö«Y¡A§Ṳ́@¦~Á`·|¨£Ó´X¦¸±¡A¥L̵̨M·|»ÝnÀˮ֥H Steinway & Sons ¬°¦W±À¥Xªº·s²£«~¡C¦p¤µ³o¥u¬O«Ü¥±`ªº¨Ò¦æ¤½¨Æ¤F¡A¦]¬°¥L̪¾¹D§Ų́C¦¸³£¯à§¹¬ü¹F¼Ð¡F¨ä¹ê¥H"Steinway & Sons"¬°¦W¡A³o¤]¦P®É¬O¤@ºØ·¥¤jªº¸q°È¡A¨C¦¸³£n°µ¨ì³Ì¦n !! |
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>> Part.8 In this part Peter Lyngdorf introduces the Steinway Lyngdorf P100 processor. ²Ä¤K¬q³X°Ý¡APeter ¤¶²Ð¤F Steinway Lyngdorf ªº·s²£«~ P100 ¥þ¼Æ¦ì¸Ñ½X³B²z¾¹ ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: The Steinway Lyngdorf P100 is basically just a stripped down version of the P200. It has the same level of quality, the same bass management, RoomPerfect technology and so on. It has only 10 native channels versus 12. It has fewer HDMI inputs and is quiet a bit less expensive. It¡¦s just matches the request to do something that matches our S system a little bit better in terms of price. But everything we do is of the same quality¡Kfewer channels and so on. ¡@ Peter : Steinway Lyngdorf ªº·s²£«~ P100 °ò¥»¤W¬O P200 ªºÂ²¤Æª©¡C¦³¬Û¦Pªº«~½è¤ô·Ç¡A¬Û¦Pªº§CµºÞ²z¡BRoomPerfect ...µ¥§Þ³N¡Cì¥ÍªºÁn¹D¼Æ±q 12Án¹D²¤Æ¬° 10Án¹D¡AHDMI ¿é¤J¤Ö¤@ÂI¡A»ù®æ¤]¬Û¹ï«K©y¤@¨Ç¡C¥Dn¥Î¥H¤Ç°t§Ú̪º Model.S ¨t²Î¡AÅý¾ãÅé³y»ù¯à§ó¦X©y¡F¦ý¦U¤è±ªº¤ô·Ç³£¬O¤@PªºÀu²§ ... ´NÁn¹D¼Æ¤Ö¤@ÂI¡C ¡@
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>> Part.9 In this 9th part Peter Lyngdorf introduces the Steinway Lyngdorf Model B loudspeaker. ²Ä¤E¬q³X°Ý¡APeter ¤¶²Ð¤F¥t¤@´Ú Steinway Lyngdorf ªº·s²£«~ - Model.B ´Án¾¹¨t²Î ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: The Model B is actually the first completely new Steinway Lyngdorf loudspeaker for stereo, that is primarily designed for stereo, since we introduced the S system. As you know the S system has been very popular. It¡¦s selling for about £á25.000 for a complete system with the electronics and the speakers. It has won the Absolute Sound Golden Ear award, 6 years in a row, which tells something. Right after I designed the S15 woofer, the acousticians designed the acoustics around it, I¡¦ve been working with the engineers to make something that would be 2,5 times the price, with better performance then the S system. We came up with 9 or 10 different proposals. But every time after comparing and listening to the S system, the S system beat the crap out of it. I did what¡¦s called a McCain. You know what a McCain is? It¡¦s like thi one. You remember when he said no to Obama care? I did that for 6 years in a row. Every new proposal: no. It¡¦s more expensive then the S system, but it doesn¡¦t sound better. ¡@ Peter : Model.B ¬OÄ~ Model.S µoªí¤W¥«¥H¨Ó¡B¥t¤@´Ú Steinway Lyngdorf ªº¥þ·s²£«~¡A¥Dn°µ¬°¨âÁn¹D¥ßÅéÁn¡C¦p±z©Òª¾¡A¾ã®M°â»ù 25,000.- ¼Ú¤¸¡B¥]¬AÂX¤j¾÷»P³â¥zªº Model.S ¤w¸g¼s¨üÅwªï¡CModel.S ³sÄòűo¤»¦~µo¿N¤Ñ®Ñ(Absolute Sound)ª÷¦Õ¦·¼ú¡A³o«D¤ñ´M±`¡C´N¦b§Ú³]p§¹ S15 §Cµ¤§«á¡A§Ú´N±µµÛ»P¤uµ{®v̶}©lµÛ¤âÀ¼¹º¡B±N¥Ø¼Ð³]©w¬° Model.S 2.5¿¹wºâ³y»ù¡B¤ñ Model.S ©Ê¯à§ó¬°Àu²§ªº·s¨t²Î¡CÁ`p§ÚÌ´£¥X¤F¤j¬ù¤E¨ì¤QÓ´£®×¡A¦ý¨C¦¸±N¤§»P Model.S ¨t²Î¤@¤ñ¸û¡A¨C¦¸³£³Q¥´±Ñ¡C§Ú¨C¦¸³£§êºt"°¨¨Ô"¡A§Aª¾¹D°¨¨Ô(°Ñijû)¶Ü ? ¦pªG§A°O±o·í¥L¹ï¼Ú¤Ú°¨ªº°·«Oªk®×»¡¤£ªº®ÉÔ ....( ³on¬Ý¤@¤U¿ý¼v¤¤¡APeter ¦³"¤ñ"µ¹§ÚÌ¬Ý ... ¥i¼¦ªº¬ãµo¤uµ{®vÌ ... )¡C§Ú³o¼Ë³sÄò"¤ñ"¤F¤»¦~(¬Ý¨Ó Peter ªº¤â«ü¤]«Ü¨¯W ... : )¡A¹ï¨C¤@¦¸ªº´£®×»¡"¤£"¡A«ç»ò³y»ù¤ñ Model.S §ó¶Q¡B«o¨S¯à§ó¦n¡C( Model.S ¨t²ÎªGµM¼F®`¡AÃø©Ç Peter ®a¸Ì¥Îªº¬O Model.S ... : ) ¡@
¡@ Two years ago I decided to do like more of a mini model D and try to get as much performance as possible out of it, at a smaller form factor, easier to manufacturer and at a lower cost. That¡¦s when I started to work on the Model B concept. We ended up with something that is an elegant design for a powerful speaker. It¡¦s 60cm wide, it¡¦s 124cm tall, it has six 12 inch woofers, each with a 12Kg magnet. When you look at it you say how can you have so much woofers in such a small form factor? We actually folded it up slightly. It¡¦s a perfect dipole. We reversed the polarity of 3 woofers; we have 2 in positive and 3 in negative. 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Electronic crossovers, time alignment¡Kwe have a lot of control over the speaker. I was arrogant enough to say that I made the drawings, we put it together and it¡¦s gonna work. It did work. We made some small modifications from my original design to make it more manufacturable. We pretty much went straight on from concept to manufacturing. The sound is really good. The price is less then half of the Model D. It¡¦s not as extravagant, but I would say it holds up against the Model D sound wise extremely well. It looks small and is compact, you don¡¦t see that it¡¦s a dipole. There¡¦s no real volume. It weighs close to 160Kg per speaker, which is a little bit of surprise when you see the size. Everything is made like a Steinway Ly,gdorf product: solid, aluminum. There¡¦s no piece of bent metal in it. No plastic. It¡¦s expensive to make, but the end product is a superb sounding product. 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>> Part.10 In this last part Peter Lyngdorf talks about his feelings towards the immersive sound formats versus good old stereo. ²Ä¤Q¬q³X°Ý(³Ì«á¤@¬q)¡APeter ½Í¤F¥L¹ï¦hÁn¹D¨¾ú¨ä¹ÒµÁn®æ¦¡¡B»P¦nªº¥ßÅéÁn¤§¶¡ªºµû¤ñ ... ¡@ Peter Lyngdorf ¡V CEO Steinway Lyngdorf: I still love good old stereo. At home I have a Steinway Lyngdorf S based system, from the principal that the least expensive Steinway Lyngdorf system should be absolutely able to make me happy. If it¡¦s not making me happy, I¡¦m not going to make it. So it has to be fantastic. I only have a 5 channel system. I haven¡¦t gone to 7 channels yet. I will go -in the next year or so, when I have the time- to full 3D surround with the height speakers and everything. I think that going from stereo to multichannel is extremely enjoyable for live concerts. There are a lot of very nice recordings in blu-ray, fantastic dynamic range, fantastic performance. You see the picture and have the sound at the same time. It offers a fantastic experience. When I do a demo of my home theatre, I always start in stereo. I tell people it¡¦s surround, but it¡¦s in fact only stereo. Most people say that it¡¦s the best surround they have ever heard. And it¡¦s only still stereo! Then I switch over to surround and it gets a little better. It¡¦s more immersive. ¡@ Peter : ¨ä¹ê§Ú¨ÌµM³ß·R¥ßÅéÁn¨t²Î¡C¦b§Ú®a¡A§Ú¦³¤@®M Steinway Lyngdorf Model.S¡A§Y«K¬O³Ì¤£¶Qªº¤@®M¥v©Z«ÂµÅT¡B¥¦¤]À³¸Ón¨Ï¤Hº¡·N¡C©Ò¥H¦pªG¥¦¤£¯à«HªA©ó¤H¡A¥¦´N¤£¥i¯à·|¹L§Ú³o¤@Ãö ... ©Ò¥H¥¦¶Õ¥²±o«Ü´Î¤~¦æ¡C¥Ø«e§Ú¥u¦³¤Án¹D¡A©|¥¼ÂX¼W¨ì¤CÁn¹D ... ©ú¦~©Î³\§a¡A·í§Ú¦³®É¶¡®É - §ÚnÂX¼W¨ì 3D Àô¶¦hÁn¹D - ²[»\¤W¤èÁn¹D ...µ¥¡C§Ú»{¬°¡A¹ï©ó²{³õµ¼Ö·|³o¼Ëªº¤º®e¡A±q¥ßÅéÁn¶i¤Æ¨ì¦hÁn¹D±N¤Q¤À¦³½ì¡C¦³³\¦h«D±`Àu²§ªºÂÅ¥ú¤ùª©¥»¡B¦³«Ü´Îªº°ÊºA¡B«Ü´Îªººt¥X¡A¦P®É¥i¥H¦³¼v¹³»PÁnµ ... ¾ãÅé±a¨Ó«Ü´ÎªºÅéÅç¡C·í§Ú°ÊºA®i¥Ü§Ú̪º¼@°|¨t²Î®É¡A§ÚÁ`¬O¥ý¥H¥ßÅéÁn¼Ò¦¡¼½¥X¡AµM«á§Ú¬G·N§i¶DÅ¥²³»¡¬OÀô¶¦hÁn¹D ... ¦ý¨ä¹ê¬O¥ßÅéÁn¡C«Ü¦h¤H·|»¡¡A³o¬O¥LÌÅ¥¹L³ÌÆgªºÀô¶¦hÁn¹D¡A¦ý¦¹®É¨ÌÂÂÁÙ¬O¥ßÅéÁn( ... 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If you have the budget for it, I would say go for it. There¡¦s so much good material out there. A lot of blu-rays with tremendous dynamic range and fantastic performances. I can enjoy that a lot. 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